Well Said, Dr. Griffin April 22, 2009Posted by shubber in Uncategorized.
Tags: Alt.space, cheap access space, Cheap Access To Space (CATS), human spaceflight, Manned Space Exploration, Mars, NASA, NewSpace, obama, Space Cynics, Space Solar Power, Space Solar Power (SSP), space tourism, space tourist, suborbital tourism, VSE
A fictional space program will always be faster, better, and cheaper than a real space program.
- Mike Griffin, Goddard Award Dinner 2009
SECOND SPACE CYNICS ROUNDTABLE DISCUSSION October 27, 2008Posted by drspaceshow in Uncategorized.
Tags: challenges, Cheap Access to Space, Club of Rome limitations, Department of Defense (DoD), Due Diligence, economic driver, economic viability, engineering, Mag lift, military, national security, politics, R&D, science, Space Based Solar Power (SBSP), Space Cynics, Space Elevator, space policy, Space Solar Power (SSP), substitute technology, terrestrial energy, Van Allen radiation belts
THE SECOND SPACE CYNICS ROUNDTABLE DISCUSSION IS HERE!!!
THIS TIME THE CYNICS FOCUS ON SPACE SOLAR POWER (and a few other issues).
Space Cynics Shubber Ali, Tom Olson (Tom’s Rants), Dr. John Jurist (Old Space Cadet) and Dr. David Livingston (Professor L) engaged in a roundtable conference call Saturday morning, Oct. 25, 2008 to discuss space solar power. In keeping with true Space Cynics fashion, this was a hard-hitting discussion addressing some of the fundamental challenges facing SSP and why the Cynics do not share the joy of seeing a future SSP world as do those promoting it. As we started the discussion, Shubber outlined three basic areas that we addressed: technical challenges, economic and political (policy) challenges, and those challenges represented by substitute technology. All of us were in agreement that the technical challenges can be met over time and with sufficient funding and R&D. All the Cynics believe that substitute technologies here on Earth will typically give the economic and policy advantage to terrestrial power over SSP. Furthermore, the economic, political, and policy challenges ahead for SSP are formidable and likely to be much harder, complex, and costly to resolve than many of those promoting SSP believe will be the case.
Since many listening to this discussion will not agree with some or even all of the points made, should you choose to reply, comment, or question what you hear, please do so factually. For example, if you are going to report or comment that the launch cost will be $200/kilo to GEO or some other very low rate, tell us how that happens so we can respond factually. If you are talking theoretical, please provide the support and basis for your theory. If you are expressing your opinion, fine, please do so, but remember that opinions are not fact or reality. By the way, this rule applies to the opinions of the Cynics as well. Another interesting point offered in this discussion came up when we talked about the need for low cost space access. Shubber made the point that the military does not really want cheap and easy access to space by the general public, thus it’s unlikely that there will be any government action taken to significantly change the way we access space.
For some of you, you may believe or even tell us that we are not helping the “SSP movement.” All of us have heard this before. So be it, but please tell us why our goal should to be to help any movement. Either individually or collectively as the Space Cynics, we discuss, report, and post on what we read, see, understand, and want to express. We are not posting to serve a movement of any kind. We are not obligated to serve any movement. We are obligated to study and understand an issue and report or discuss it as we see it and understand it. If some of you have ruffled feathers over that, please show us where our analysis or conclusions are wrong. We welcome such input and open discussion right here on the Space Cynics blog. Please see http://www.thespaceshow.com for a more comprehensive description of this program.
SHUBBER ALI ON THE SPACE SHOW October 1, 2008Posted by drspaceshow in Uncategorized.
Tags: Alt.space, Cheap Access To Space (CATS), classics, Discovery TV, E-84, economic crisis, energy, ethanol, flex fuel engines, Greek, housing bubble, housing crisis, jobs program, Latin, M-84, methanol, NASA, NewSpace, oil, Shubber Ali, Space Cynics, Space Investment Summit, Space Solar Power (SSP), space tourist, spaceports, SpaceX, suborbital tourism, Thalia, venture capital, Walking Eagle Award
Listen to Shubber on the Tuesday evening, Sept. 30, 2008 episode of The Space Show. Shubber is hard hitting, witty, and at times, in your face with reality and facts. We had a surprise caller, Thalia.ad.astra! Listen to her questions and answers in her own voice. Yes, she is a real, independent person who called in from Seattle. During this show, you will hear Shubber do a hard analysis on our nation’s economic crisis and apply the consequences to space development now and for the future. Shubber dissects space solar power from the economic perspective, pulling the rug out from underneath those that belong to the Church of Space Solar Power as we discussed during our Cynics discussion roundtable at ISDC at the end of May. Other topics that Shubber addressed included the Zubrin plan for flex fuel engines to become energy independent, the gap, space tourism, both orbital and suborbital, space investment, venture capital, and financing. Other favorites, such as spaceports, were dissected with Shubber’s hard hitting, reality based analysis. If you listened to the program by means of this Space Cynics link and if you have comments or questions for Shubber, the callers, or for me, please post them right here on the Cynics blog, do not send them to me at my Space Show address. This is a transparent process, so please post right here. If you do send them to me, be advised that I will immediately post them on the Cynics blog as a comment, name and all. Also note that this is a Space Show program and as host of The Space Show, I obtained permission to link this Space Show program here with Space Cynics.