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Xena Reborn October 3, 2006

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Congratulations to Anousheh Ansari, on her recent vacation to the ISS.

There, now that i’ve got that out of the way, I’ve got a message for all you Anousheh-is-the-second-coming-of-Xena freaks out there.

She went on a (very expensive) VACATION to an extreme destination.

This isn’t HISTORIC.
It WON’T get you to space.
She’s RICH, you AREN’T.
She isn’t the first person to BLOG.*

While we all here at the Space Cynics are certainly envious of her rarely-experienced vacation, and would love the chance to go (so any of you wanting to donate $80m – so we can all go – to the Cynics… make your checks out to Cash, or just paypal us.) we aren’t buying this drivelish worship fest that seems to have infected you.

Go take a cold shower and get a life.

Regards,
The Management

(*note, in case you missed it, the Space Cynics is a blog too. Duh.)

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1. AlexZanzibar - October 4, 2006

Dear Shubber Ali:

So that you are not sad for not receiving much attention on your blog. Copied (borrowed) from Anousheh’s Blog:

Dear Anousheh, and hello to Peter and everyone taking the time to read this far down….

If you might let me throw a few things in here…

First, it seems clear to me that BOTH Mr. Ali and Anousheh are trying to come to grips with the same issue. He doesn’t understand how what she did warrents her a ‘fan club’. And Anousheh, you have said and wrote that you hoped to show people that dreams can come true, and to inspire them to persue their own dreams. But you clearly didn’t expect people to react to you in such a personal manner, of which I’m as guilty of as much as many others who left you comments. Kind of like walking into your house, turning on the lights, and having hundreds of people yell SURPRISE!!!. I can imagine you just standing there at the door, with a stunned look on your face, wondering why your getting all this attention.

Anousheh, we just plain like you. The little girl stairing up at the stars we can all relate to. We can admire the journey you have been on your whole life, not because it was easy, but because it was hard. Some ask why do it? You answered ‘why not?’ You inspired people with words and ideas, not special effects. Both the joys and hardships of space travel now have emotions, something that was lacking, and now have relation to what we do everyday here on earth. Respect. You show it to other people, you’ve told how other people can and do show it, and we just want to show ours to you.

Anousheh, we’re not a fan club or admiration society. A new circle of friends may have taken form by accident, or maybe it was meant to happen. You reached out and took us by the hand to go on a wonderful adventure. Now we extend our hands out to you, for the real adventure, the Quest, is just begining. Come take your place in the circle, there’s always room for one more dreamer of a better future. Let’s all go forward together, let’s stick together, no matter what anybody says or does to try to discourage us.

Anousheh, we like you, plain and simple. We think of you as we would a friend, bestfriend, or even as family. I wish there was a way to help you sort through all the feelings your experiencing, time and rest will certinly help. Even a good old fashioned day at work at Prodea Systems might help. You know, phone calls and e-mails, a cold soda, and a stash of chocolate in the top desk drawer…. and Hamid.

For everyone else reading this, I’m the sure the Ansari family has alot of catching up to do. They have been apart for a long time, and now they have a Cosmonaut to deal with. She did belong to them first, you know. A little time and patience on our part is in order here, the rest of the chapter is coming.

Geeeeezzzz, next time I’ll just write a book….
All our love
Joe LePage Florida,USA

Since Joe says it so well. There really isn’t any reason to add anything, except for the friendly advice that if something doesn’t float your boat don’t assume that it is invalid. If we (and we number in millions) are inspired by Anousheh and you are not, there is no need to be confused.

One day you will find something outside of “cynicism” to inspire you and you will smile with your heart, as the rest us. That will be a beautiful day.

Thanks for playing the devil’s advocate. I for one feel much more connected and less part of the bandwagon. Having had to justify my day in and day out reading of Anousheh’s blog and being so inspired by her, has made me understand the why.

2. badger - October 4, 2006

Yes Joe Page did say it very well. What an odd guy he is — he actually reads! 😉

That emotional rollercoaster stabilization device is a handy gadget — thanks for sharing.

3. badger - October 4, 2006

P.S. Badger on Space-Cynics is known as Ground Ops on the vacation blog in question.

— Robin

4. Sam Dinkin - October 5, 2006

You can also compete against 131,000 with a $3.50 shot at spaceflight.

5. Professor L - October 5, 2006

A recent post here on Space-Cynics about Anousheh Ansari’s trip to the ISS has provided me with an opportunity share my thoughts on the subject with you though they are also clearly expressed in several Space Show programs (www.thespaceshow.com). From my perspective, Ms. Ansari has done lots for space development, maybe even more than any government or even a private sector program. She has demonstrated an incredible benefit resulting from freedom, education, capitalism, vision, having a dream that is not silenced by others, and of course the ability to take action out of free will and choice. She has modeled this to people all over the world. Free people, oppressed people, especially oppressed women and others. In my opinion, she has done more for women than the National Organization of Women (NOW) or any other women’s group. In fact, maybe I missed it but where was NOW in support of Anousheh in space? Or maybe space is not on their horizon. Regardless, Anousheh’s flight was and is very important. Its more than a symbol. Its an inspiration and in today’s world, its not easy to be inspired.

Regarding her adventure in terms of space tourism, it certainly helps provide a positive image for this developing industry among people not very aware of space tourism or skeptical about it and its potential. I think its too early to tell how space tourism will develop, over what time period, and what type of market will come to be regarding space tourism. But one thing is for sure and that is that the efforts of Anousheh Ansari have helped the cause, not hurt it.

While I concur with Shubber and many others regarding the uphill business aspects of space tourism, I strongly believe that Anousheh Ansari’s adventure to space was powerful, inspiring, very constructive and useful. While there may be a thin line in worshiping someone and being inspired by them, I like to think that people all over the world have largely been inspired by her actions. If some decide to worship her, so be it, its not such a big deal because these people obviously need someone or something to worship. Better Anousheh than something or someone else because with Anousheh, the worshiper gets a positive role model and representative of the positive side of the human potential. Inspiration makes the impossible plausible, makes dreams a reality, and can change worlds.

Anousheh, you did something good. Thank you.

Professor L.

6. Jon Goff - October 7, 2006

Prof L,
I have to say I much prefer your comments to Shubbers. I was kind of disappointed that your blog’s first post in a long time was one that came off as childish and immature. I’m glad to see that at least some of you realize that being a cynic doesn’t imply being obnoxiously controversial just for the sake of controversy.

~Jon

7. Shubber Ali - October 7, 2006

Jon Goff said…
Prof L,
I have to say I much prefer your comments to Shubbers. I was kind of disappointed that your blog’s first post in a long time was one that came off as childish and immature.

My blog post was a response to the reading-comprehension challenged twits who seemed to inhabit the land of Xena worship known as Anousheh’s blog. Obviously you appear to fall into that sad group of people, since you don’t have the ability to grasp the actual points I made at that site – something that WAS obvious to at least one person involved in the blog itself, and for which I was thanked.

I’m glad to see that at least some of you realize that being a cynic doesn’t imply being obnoxiously controversial just for the sake of controversy.

I’m not being controversial for the sake of controversy. If my comments are controversial, so be it. If you prefer your kool-aid, you are free to not visit this blog and live your fantasy in peace.

8. Shubber Ali - October 8, 2006

There really isn’t any reason to add anything, except for the friendly advice that if something doesn’t float your boat don’t assume that it is invalid. If we (and we number in millions) are inspired by Anousheh and you are not, there is no need to be confused.

I’m not confused by what Anousheh did, as badger rightly knows 🙂 I am saddened by how childishly simplistic you members of the congregation appear to be. Perhaps I should sit back, wait two years, and watch the kool-aid effect slip away until you are fully caught up in the glow of the latest will-o-wisp and stop dreaming about going to space as if dreams were the only thing we were short of in our quest for permanent cheap reliable reusable access to space.

9. Bruce - October 9, 2006

Mr Ali,

You can be forgiven for not understanding the significance of “space blogging”. What you’ve not been forgiven for is criticising those who showed their appreciation of Mrs Ansari’s “sharing”. Considering your connection to the space industry, perhaps it’s a case of “can’t see the wood for the trees”.

Space tourists are nothing new. Blogging is nothing new. Being Iranian and/or female is of no importance, to me. It is to some, which does seem to have been overlooked in your amusement. Yet still you seem to ignore the fact that no other person has combined space travel and blogging. Nor has any space traveller described, to the public, their story in such an intimate way. Instead of the well polished delivery of NASA TV and the US astronauts, the blog was delivered with real feeling and emotion.

But then maybe your posts are just a great way to get free publicity for yourself, your blog, and the company you work for. 🙂 After all, the hurt you’ve caused will be soon forgotten, but many thousands will never forget the name – Shubber Ali.

10. Shubber Ali - October 9, 2006

After all, the hurt you’ve caused will be soon forgotten, but many thousands will never forget the name – Shubber Ali.

Well, that’s a brave comment coming from one so cowardly as to not be willing to post their own name. I’d respond to the rest of your missive, but i’m afraid of hurting you even more than i apparently already have done.

11. Bruce - October 9, 2006

Cowardly you may think, but I’m not the one looking for publicity. And I’m sure you’re not worried about hurting *my* feelings, which BTW aren’t at all hurt. On the contrary, I have enjoyed the entertainment of the whole event. 🙂 Some lesser experienced internet users might be a bit different, but as you get taught in school – “don’t talk to strangers” 😉

Tell me one thing though. Were you surprised by the reaction to your comments, or was that exactly the reaction that you encouraged. I’m sure I’m not the only one thinking “troll”.

12. Shubber Ali - October 9, 2006

Cowardly you may think, but I’m not the one looking for publicity.

Obviously you are, but in the standard 12-year-old internet chat room kind of way. That’s a very clever name you came up with – did you think of that all by yourself or did you get mom to help you out?

Tell me one thing though.

I’ll tell you two – first, you’re an idiot.

Were you surprised by the reaction to your comments, or was that exactly the reaction that you encouraged. I’m sure I’m not the only one thinking “troll”.

Second, no, i wasn’t surprised, because it reinforced for me my understanding that the average person is a moron. Think about it – if the average IQ is 100, that means half the population has an IQ under 100 – which, I’d hazard to guess, includes you.

As for thinking – i don’t believe most of the people who posted on that blog in response to my comments were actually thinking at all. If they did, and if they had the most rudimentary grasp of the english language, they’d actually get the points I raised, and that I (a) envied Anousheh and (b) would gladly go if I had $20m to blow on such a trip. So comments from those enlightened individuals who thought I was being talibanesque because I didn’t think she should spend the money the way she wanted to only confirmed my opinion of how naive and stupid those posters were.

The fact that you all keep coming to our blog, and responding to our posts, be it on spaceports, space tourism, elevators, solar power satellites, or Anousheh’s vacation, makes me ask again – why do you care what we think? Are you looking for some sort of approval or “atta boy”? Well, it ain’t going to happen, so get used to disappointment.

13. Bruce - October 10, 2006

I’ll tell you two – first, you’re an idiot.

See, you’re doing it again. Attacking people when there’s no need whatsoever. It’s your blog so you’re entitled to, of course. Note that I’m not attacking *you*. Some questions and polite criticism, that’s all.

The average person *might* be a moron. And yet again, you choose to finish your point with aggression. Have you considered that *you* might have the *problem*. Consider *if* your IQ was in the top percentile, and therefore most people were lower in IQ than you. Wouldn’t *everyone* seem to be morons. But in reality it’s your view that is one-sided and unobjective.

If I were to be challenged with insufficient intelligence, surely I would have resorted to aggression. Which I haven’t. FYI I’m not looking for approval from anyone. Only a fool would do that from a stranger.

Shubber, the internet is not a new medium to you, but you still act like it is. You still post with the same aggression and lack of sensitivity towards others, and yet in person you’re quite different. Why the dual personality? 😉

14. Shubber Ali - October 10, 2006

See, you’re doing it again. Attacking people when there’s no need whatsoever.

My apologies, “Shagger” – i just assumed that you wanted to have a juvenile conversation because that’s how you started out, so I figured i’d stoop to your level.

But in reality it’s your view that is one-sided and unobjective.

I’m curious – since you seem to think you shouldn’t be lumped into the same category as the others whom i’ve ended up disparaging – what do you think my view actually is?

f I were to be challenged with insufficient intelligence, surely I would have resorted to aggression. Which I haven’t.

No, only to facile observations and cowardly posting, but hey, whatever floats your boat. But you must admit you *did* post twice and then delete one…. not the sharpest tool on the blog, eh? 🙂

Shubber, the internet is not a new medium to you, but you still act like it is. You still post with the same aggression and lack of sensitivity towards others, and yet in person you’re quite different. Why the dual personality? 😉

My house, my rules. I don’t suffer fools, or foolish comments, gladly. You are welcome to stay, debate with me if you choose to (although oddly those who seem to disagree with my views on aspects of the space “industry” don’t actually stick around to debate – and i have been known to actually change MY point of view if shown another viewpoint that makes more sense….)

As for why a dual personality – i’m a gemini. It comes with the territory 😉

15. Yasna Roham - October 14, 2006

To quote your own words:
This isn’t HISTORIC.—from what I could see and gather from the news, it darn well was, and the fact that you say it isn’t doesn’t make it not so.
It WON’T get you to space.—so what?
She’s RICH, you AREN’T.—so what again?
She isn’t the first person to BLOG.—but she sure is the first one to do it from space. (not terribly important? doesn’t matter. a first’s always a record).

So she did go on an extreme vacation if you choose to describe it that way. Good for her! Drivelish worship fest? Xena? Anousheh’s ALTAR? Don’t you think you should also be getting a life? The whole thing is being blown way out of proportion. It would seem that you guys are also getting a bit weird about this, in the opposite direction. The reason I came to this blog is not that I’m looking for an atta boy from you, but just to say that if you dislike or pity Anousheh’ s fans for being so naive, and are not buying any of it, why, fine! There’s just no need to be mean and bellicose about it, and resort to terms like Anousheh-is-the-second-coming-of-Xena freak, moron and reading-comprehension-challenged twit. That’s not holding an intelligent debate.


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